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  • Explain to our board who might not know; what the pistol does for an offense? Particularly one low on OL experience or talent. Some know but for others it will help them.

    This post was edited by CF247 on 5/31/2012 at 6:47 PM

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  • CF247 said...

    Explain to our board who might not know; what the pistol does for an offense? Particularly one low on OL experience or talent. Some know but for others it will help them.

    I'm not sure if this was for me or OF, but I'll give it a go.

    There's 3 main reasons the pistol is becoming the new "it" thing in high school and college ball.

    1. For guys like Morris who like to make their running game click by running off the center's left and right butt cheeks (A gaps on both sides), the pistol gets the RB moving North and South from the initial step. That means he's hitting the hole faster, which means less time the OL has to hold their blocks. it also puts the RB's eyes in the right direction to see the hole and the cutback lanes quicker.

    2. Traditional gun formations allow the Defense to overload the defensive side away from the RB. Theres a large degree of predictability in this; there are only so many runs you can call to each side of the field. The pistol makes the Defense more honest. They'll still play weak/strong depending on the number of TE/WRs to each side or the location of the ball, but the pistol allows the Offense the ability to call all run plays to both sides with no motioning. Colin Kapernick @ Neveda was so good at the pistol, he had the freedom to call "orange" or "opposite" when he saw the Defense unbalanced.

    Imagine this, Trips to the QB right, TE left, RB in pistol formation. If you play man on the trips side and unbalance your Defense, I can run power, read option, speed option, counter, jet sweep, etc to the TE side. If you play a balanced zone D against this same formation, I can run all the same plays to the trips side. Or I can the read option bubble. Either way, I'm going to have a numbers advantage at the point of attack. Even crappy blockers like Kalon Davis can look good when there's simply more blockers than there are tacklers.

    3. Because the RB is aligned directly behind the QB, the RB is hidden from the Defense. It's incredibly hard for the DL to find the ball anyway, but throw in the RB being hidden, the QB and the ball are turned around to the DL, and you have an orbit motion on top of all that. Bellamy in particular would have thrived in this part of the pistol.

    There are several web articles devoted to this topic. Look for anything on smartfootball.com in particular.

    This post was edited by burgundy on 5/31/2012 at 7:35 PM

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  • Look for the LB's and CB's to be very strong this year...Coach V has them doing new skills to improve their foot work...the LB's are stronger and faster...watch for LT to be the head hunter on D like he was on the kick off team last year!!

    TripleT

  • Will the Pistol and with the backs we have, what % do you give us on making 3rd and 1?

    TripleT

  • Good stuff Burgundy. Hopefully OF will explain as well. OF is the scientist of offense lol.

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  • burgundy said...

    Even crappy blockers like Kalon Davis can look good when there's simply more blockers than there are tacklers.

    Hey! Watch it. Kalon gonna beast this year.

    shortbus22

  • shortbus22 said...

    Hey! Watch it. Kalon gonna beast this year.

    That was directed for Tyger04, but I didn't realize you were Team Subway too. I am disappoint in you.

    burgundy

  • burgundy said...

    That was directed for Tyger04, but I didn't realize you were Team Subway too. I am disappoint in you.

    Didn't realize tyger04 was back from his cruise. I was stepping in for him.

    But I do think Kalon >>> McClain.

    shortbus22

  • shortbus22 said...

    Didn't realize tyger04 was back from his cruise. I was stepping in for him.

    But I do think Kalon >>> McClain.

    yeah, but that's like saying eating a solid turd is better than slurping some runny poo.

    burgundy

  • burgundy said...

    That was directed for Tyger04, but I didn't realize you were Team Subway too. I am disappoint in you.

    Tyger04 & 22 joining forces. I guess husky kids have to stick together.

    :awesomeface:

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  • Tim_Matty247 said...

    Tyger04 & 22 joining forces. I guess husky kids have to stick together.

    :awesomeface:

    timmatty and burgandy after jumping Team Husky...

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  • shortbus22 said...

    timmatty and burgandy after jumping Team Husky...

    I know 04 is the black guy, but are you in the orange best or the blondie?

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  • burgundy said...

    I know 04 is the black guy, but are you in the orange best or the blondie?

    Found a better pic of you...

    (and that pic you posted of our future OL makes me rage)

    This post was edited by shortbus22 on 6/1/2012 at 8:25 AM

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  • shortbus22 said...

    Found a better pic of you...

    (and that pic you posted of our future OL makes me rage)

    is there some irony that the "better pic of me" isn't attached to your post? I dont get it.

    burgundy

  • burgundy said...

    is there some irony that the "better pic of me" isn't attached to your post? I dont get it.

    Edited to include pic, although now I wish I would have left it off. Funnier that way.

    shortbus22

  • shortbus22 said...

    Found a better pic of you...

    (and that pic you posted of our future OL makes me rage)

    Nice edit.

    burgundy

  • 7-5. i don't know who the losses will be, but our lines terrify me.

    FabulousTiger

  • TripleT said...

    Look for the LB's and CB's to be very strong this year...Coach V has them doing new skills to improve their foot work...the LB's are stronger and faster...watch for LT to be the head hunter on D like he was on the kick off team last year!!

    I'm willing to give all defensive players a new lease on life before declaring them RTR to see what Venables can do with them. They get a 3 game grace period.

    KevBo33

  • lateek townsend has been pounding pickled pigs feet, per twitter. i expect big things.

    FabulousTiger

  • KevBo33 said...

    I'm willing to give all defensive players a new lease on life before declaring them RTR to see what Venables can do with them. They get a 3 game grace period.

    While 3 games stretches beyond the limits of RTR, I'll allow it in this instance due to the coaching change.

    RGClemson05

  • KevBo33 said...

    I'm willing to give all defensive players a new lease on life before declaring them RTR to see what Venables can do with them. They get a 3 game grace period.

    Same here...I don't think Steele was employing the best system, or the system was just too complex to teach to the players. All the pre-snap chatter and adjustments and lead me to believe it was the latter,though there was likely an element of both.

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  • burgundy said...

    In 2011, Chad had 1 spring to overcome Napier's disregard for boyd. Boyd's inability to read zone D's is square on Billy. Now that Chad has had more time, Boyd will read D's like he reads the DTF cleat chasers at Loose Change.

    But seriously, I hope we see more roll outs to deal with the pressure than last year. There were some, but the pistol will open up the roll out package even more.

    I like roll outs, but prefer with a run action on first and second down, and 5-7 a game is fine, but a ton of sprint out game takes away half the field. I do hope Chad did work in the film room. Chad and tajh in the film room is our great hope.

    OrangeForever

  • OrangeForever said...

    I like roll outs, but prefer with a run action on first and second down, and 5-7 a game is fine, but a ton of sprint out game takes away half the field. I do hope Chad did work in the film room. Chad and tajh in the film room is our great hope.

    I agree about roll outs, but I like it when your OL Is swiss cheese.

    burgundy

  • FabulousTiger said...

    7-5. i don't know who the losses will be, but our lines terrify me.

    HES BACK.

    pharm

  • burgundy said...

    I'm not sure if this was for me or OF, but I'll give it a go.

    There's 3 main reasons the pistol is becoming the new "it" thing in high school and college ball.

    1. For guys like Morris who like to make their running game click by running off the center's left and right butt cheeks (A gaps on both sides), the pistol gets the RB moving North and South from the initial step. That means he's hitting the hole faster, which means less time the OL has to hold their blocks. it also puts the RB's eyes in the right direction to see the hole and the cutback lanes quicker.

    2. Traditional gun formations allow the Defense to overload the defensive side away from the RB. Theres a large degree of predictability in this; there are only so many runs you can call to each side of the field. The pistol makes the Defense more honest. They'll still play weak/strong depending on the number of TE/WRs to each side or the location of the ball, but the pistol allows the Offense the ability to call all run plays to both sides with no motioning. Colin Kapernick @ Neveda was so good at the pistol, he had the freedom to call "orange" or "opposite" when he saw the Defense unbalanced.

    Imagine this, Trips to the QB right, TE left, RB in pistol formation. If you play man on the trips side and unbalance your Defense, I can run power, read option, speed option, counter, jet sweep, etc to the TE side. If you play a balanced zone D against this same formation, I can run all the same plays to the trips side. Or I can the read option bubble. Either way, I'm going to have a numbers advantage at the point of attack. Even crappy blockers like Kalon Davis can look good when there's simply more blockers than there are tacklers.

    3. Because the RB is aligned directly behind the QB, the RB is hidden from the Defense. It's incredibly hard for the DL to find the ball anyway, but throw in the RB being hidden, the QB and the ball are turned around to the DL, and you have an orbit motion on top of all that. Bellamy in particular would have thrived in this part of the pistol.

    There are several web articles devoted to this topic. Look for anything on smartfootball.com in particular.

    Sucks that Bellamy won't be around. He would have been fantastic in the pistol.

    Here's to Brooks overtaking DJ as 2nd string, cause we know AE won't last the whole season.

    pharm

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