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Aaron Burr Cock said...
from a sc perspective its the sec first, the sec second and sec third, all medals
we suffered at first, but now, with our facilities up to par we have much to offer student athletes. so does clemson but a lot of baseball and football players lust after the sec. like great hoops players want to go to the acc or big east or one of the premier hoops leagues
and, in baseball, honestly, how can clemson let us recruit kids like scott wingo and the pitcher jordan, and others, kids with clemson backgrounds? i think your recruiting has overlooked some talent in state, now this is hurting clemson, imho.
scott wingo was not a great player at first, but by his senior year.....well, all i can say is scott wingo on clemson would have been a better clemson team.
but, you cant recruit everybody, i know. but dont ignore tradition either
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mknowles02 said...
So did Jamie Moyer, Glavine, etc...And Glavine won 300 games. Im not here to start controversy, Im just unsure if "absolute garbage" is a good thing or bad. He keeps hitters off balance and hits his spots and those are the keys to success on the bump. Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying he'll be a hall of famer, but his style of pitching can make you a lot of money.
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Aaron Burr Cock said...
and, in baseball, honestly, how can clemson let us recruit kids like scott wingo and the pitcher jordan, and others, kids with clemson backgrounds? i think your recruiting has overlooked some talent in state, now this is hurting clemson, imho.
scott wingo was not a great player at first, but by his senior year.....well, all i can say is scott wingo on clemson would have been a better clemson team.
but, you cant recruit everybody, i know. but dont ignore tradition either
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johnhunt said...
DVs are part of the game - no problem, no argument. If you disagree, clarification would be helpful.
A DV with no explanation makes it difficult to provide meaningful debate, discussion, or disagreement.
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usccocker03 said...
I agree, Pro Baseball in general is extremly tough for anyone to succeed, especially an american kid with a fastball that tops out in the high 80's. Thankfully, as with Pohl, not only are they excellent players, they are also excellent students, as in Academic All-Americans. So they will be successful in life wherever they may end up, and that, my Clemson Foes, is a good thing for everyone!
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usccocker03 said...
Dems fightin words McCoy....
Losing your job is bad luck (or in Roth's dads case, a love of your son and wanting to watch him play on the biggest stage of his life), beating your girlfriend with a towel rod is trash, lets' get that cleared up and we can go from there.
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FabulousTiger said...
who cares the reason? he should have been at work. the roths, like joe craig, were trash before, during, and after their incidents. roth will probably get a cushy job from a scar fan because of his athletic success, but he'll always be trash with a hemp necklace who takes baths with dudes.
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FabulousTiger said...
who cares the reason? he should have been at work. the roths, like joe craig, were trash before, during, and after their incidents. roth will probably get a cushy job from a scar fan because of his athletic success, but he'll always be trash with a hemp necklace who takes baths with dudes.
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usccocker03 said...
WOW, I have seen it all now, comparing Michael Roth to Joe Craig….Jack Leggett... is that you?? I realize you are upset because your Grandfather got fired and your dad is pitching against Oklahoma next weekend, but no reason to compare those two, come on man have a heart!!
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mknowles02 said...
So did Jamie Moyer, Glavine, etc...And Glavine won 300 games. Im not here to start controversy, Im just unsure if "absolute garbage" is a good thing or bad. He keeps hitters off balance and hits his spots and those are the keys to success on the bump. Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying he'll be a hall of famer, but his style of pitching can make you a lot of money.
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81 Alumnus said...
If Roth never pitches a game professionally he'll have at least two national championship rings, the Boyd McWhorter Award as the SEC's premier male scholar athlete and a magna cum laude degree from the nation's number one International Business program.
Not to mention the fun of sending the taters home from Omaha with their tails between their legs. Of course when a "school" has the distinction of the most trips to the College World Series without ever reaching the finals, like clemson, that's something many pitchers have on their resume.
Oh yeah, he never beat the hell out of his girlfriend with a towel rod, or got likkered up and killed a track coach with a Sea Do either.
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FabulousTiger said...
scott wingo turned out to be a solid player for one year, but if he would have made clemson better, it would have been by changing positions or from the bench. clemson had a better 2B in mike freeman. he wouldn't have moved to short, because he wouldn't have played over brad miller. more or less a wash with john hinson at 3rd. i don't know if he could have played in the OF.
jordan montgomery is a head scratcher considering how bad our pitching staff has been for the last couple of years.
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