Cemetery Hill

TuxedoYoda,

Let me ask you this, in 2014, when the structure is in place for the playoff, assuming that the Big 12 is at its present membership numbers, how does it expect to get a 1 loss team or even an undefeated team in the playoffs without the SOS boost that will come from playing a Conference championship game if its not a Texas or Oklahoma in a that position?

The structure as it is being presented indicates a higher premium on SOS as conference champions isn't a requirement. So Lets play the game in 2014, a one loss Clemson squad that played 9 conference games, out of conference games with UGA and South Carolina of the SEC and only one patsy, plus winning the ACCCG is going to get bypassed by a Texas squad thats has one loss playing 8 conference games, North Texas, BYU, and UCLA and some other likely patsy on their schedule with no championship game? I don't see that happening.

The Big 12 now needs expansion as much as the ACC needs to hold on to Clemson and FSU. I want us in a football conference but as presently represented the current conferences are not miles apart in any other way but the money in your contract versus ours. I just wish certain folk would stop looking at notre dame as a saviour and realize that they are a succubus on the system as a whole and more of a symptom of whats wrong with the way College football's rewards are doled out.

Yes, because Texas plays Baylor,KSU,OU,OSU,WV, and TCU. That kills the ACC SOS.

This is preseason and just one guys opinion, but it shows UT's SOS as stronger.

How long can Snyder keep coaching? KSU will be mediocre again when he is gone. Baylor will also fall. I believe the other schools listed do have staying power and are probably better than anything an ACC school could play in conference. That is why OOC scheduling is so important for Clemson and the ninth conference game must be eliminated.

".....they are not miles apart in any other way but the money...."

the ugly girl isn't much different than the pretty girl except she's ugly...she's still a girl

my uncle isn't much different from my aunt except he's a man

the man who is poor isn't much different from the rich man except for the money part

It's friggen amazing what Snyder has done there. I think you might be surprised by Baylor. They will be ok as long as Briles is there.

I don't think he's far off. It would take a minor miracle for it to happen.

That's why the odds are stacked against the BE/ACC. CU's OoC schedule would have to be against true powerhouses to have a chance. What would really be crazy is to see an undefeated ACC team left outside the top 4.

THIS. There's no way to overcome the weak conference games.

Our OOC schedule will be USCe, Wofford, and a ball state once we add Syracuse every year...

FSU and GT could easily be our best conference games in years without VPI or Miami on the rotation...

Ouch.

2012 strength of schedule models
1- Texas #12 Clemson #33. In the first model Oklahoma St, K State and OU are in the top 10. Fwiw Clemson has the highest rated SOS in the ACC in this model.

2- Phil Steele SOS

3- Phil Steele ACC SOS breakdown

#9 Miami (toughest opponent: Florida State/easiest: Bethune-Cookman)

#33 Maryland (toughest opponent: Florida State/easiest: William & Mary)

#35 Duke (toughest opponent: Florida State/easiest: NC Central)

#39 Wake Forest (toughest opponent: Florida State/easiest: Liberty)

#40 Syracuse (toughest opponent: USC/easiest: Stony Brook)

#41 Boston College (toughest opponent: Florida State/easiest: Maine)

#44 Virginia Tech (toughest opponent: Florida State/easiest: Austin Peay)

#48 Georgia Tech (toughest opponent: Georgia/easiest: Presbyterian)

#49 Clemson (toughest opponent: Florida State/easiest: Furman)

#51 Virginia (toughest opponent: TCU/easiest: Richmond)

#61 NC State (toughest opponent: Florida State/easiest: The Citadel)

#70 Florida State (toughest opponent: Clemson/easiest: Savannah State)

#76 Pittsburgh (toughest opponent: Virginia Tech/easiest: Youngstown State)

#85 North Carolina (toughest opponent: Virginia Tech/easiest: Elon

Big 12:

Average of 23.00
ACC average of 47.92

3 ISU (Iowa, Tulsa, FCS Western Ill)
7 Baylor (SMU, ULM, FCS runner up SHSU)
11 KU (NIU, Rice, FCS So Dak St)
16 TCU (SMU, UVA, FCS Grambling)
20 OU (UTEP, ND, FCS FAMU)
22 OSU (Arizona, ULL, FCS Sav State)
31 WVU (Maryland, Marshall, FCS James Madison)
34 KSU (UNT, Miami, FCS Missouri St)
36 Texas (Ole Miss, Wyoming, horrific New Mexico)
50 Tech (FBS move up Texas State, horrific New Mexico, and FCS Northwestern State)

We aren't scheduling tough in non-con and it isn't mattering. The 9 league games we play carry us.

Texas Tech playing as easy as they can get for their three noncons are higher in SOS than 5 ACC programs while pretty much doing the best they can to get an easy schedule. The next lowest SOS (Texas) is higher than 11 of them. There is no comparison IMO. Without Miami's #9 anomaly we'd have 7 programs with a higher SOS than any ACC program.